The Pain Trade Podcast

Michael A. Gayed, CFA

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The Pain Trade Podcast — what it costs, and what it pays.In markets, the pain trade is the position that hurts to hold, and pays because it hurts. Every field has one: the last rep, the lean years, the comeback nobody expected.Weekly in-studio conversations with people who overcame what should have broken them — in business, in markets, in health, in life.Hosted by Michael A. Gayed, CFA — active portfolio manager, five-time Dow Award winner, founder of Lead-Lag Media, and publisher of The Lead-Lag Report.Health, fitness, finance, entrepreneurship, and the struggle that connects them. New episodes weekly.

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Recent episodes

  • Jeremy Schwartz, WisdomTree CIO: Growth vs Value, Home Bias & the Next 20 YearsAug 28, 2026 · 42 min
  • Where the Next Decade of Alpha Lives Outside the US | Hervé Van Caloen, Mercator Investment ManagementAug 2, 2026 · 44 min
  • Smart Beta Meets China: Building Better Factor Exposure | Jason Hsu, Fujia Liu & Tony YangJul 20, 2026 · 60 min
  • The Rate-Cut Divergence Nobody's Pricing In | Live Sector Scans with TrendSpider SidekickJul 19, 2026 · 45 min
  • Alex Shahidi: Commodity Producers, Inflation & the RPAR/UPAR CaseJul 14, 2026 · 24 min
  • Alex Shahidi: Gold, Risk Parity & Why 60/40 Is BrokenJul 13, 2026 · 22 min
  • Jay Hatfield, InfraCap: Preferreds, MLPs & Small-Cap Setup H2 2026Jul 6, 2026 · 25 min
  • Jay Hatfield: S&P 9,000, CPI Negative, Three Rate Cuts (PFFA, AMZA, QVOL)Jul 4, 2026 · 25 min
  • Daniel Santiago (State Street): Sector ETFs, S&P Concentration, and Reading the CycleJul 3, 2026 · 28 min
  • Phil Wool, Rayliant — Active EM Investing & Factor StrategiesJun 21, 2026 · 44 min

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