
The Pain Trade Podcast
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The Pain Trade Podcast — what it costs, and what it pays.In markets, the pain trade is the position that hurts to hold, and pays because it hurts. Every field has one: the last rep, the lean years, the comeback nobody expected.Weekly in-studio conversations with people who overcame what should have broken them — in business, in markets, in health, in life.Hosted by Michael A. Gayed, CFA — active portfolio manager, five-time Dow Award winner, founder of Lead-Lag Media, and publisher of The Lead-Lag Report.Health, fitness, finance, entrepreneurship, and the struggle that connects them. New episodes weekly.
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- Alex Shahidi: Gold, Risk Parity & Why 60/40 Is Broken
- Jay Hatfield, InfraCap: Preferreds, MLPs & Small-Cap Setup H2 2026
- Jay Hatfield: S&P 9,000, CPI Negative, Three Rate Cuts (PFFA, AMZA, QVOL)
- Daniel Santiago (State Street): Sector ETFs, S&P Concentration, and Reading the Cycle
- Phil Wool, Rayliant — Active EM Investing & Factor Strategies